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this is "gps" the global public square. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you this week from london. we begin the show wan exclusive interview with maziar bahari "the newsweek" reporter who spent four months in an iranian prison. he's written about it in this week's "newsweek." he has a harrowing, moving tale to tell. and then the main event. i'm just back from new deli where i spoke with the prime minister of india manmolian singh. let's get started.
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everyone has forgotten you, those were words maziar bahari heard every day from interrogators during the four months he spent in solitary confine in the an iranian prison. maziar is my colleague, a fine journalist who works for "newsweek" he's also an award-winning filmmaker. he was arrested along with hundreds of others during the protests that followed iran's disputed election. the end of his ordeal came in october when he was released on bail of $3 billion reales, equal to $300,000 american dollars. he flew back to his home in london just days before his wife paola gave birth to their first child a girl. i'm delighted to welcome maziar bahari as my guest today. thank you for coming here. >> good to be here. thank you, far snead so take us back to the 21st of june. in iran. >> well, i was asleep. it was eye think it was around 7:30, 7:45 in the morning.
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i was staying with my mother at that time. i was between apartments. and my mother came in. came into the room i was sleeping. and she said, there are four people here. they say they're from the prosecutor's office. she already had doubts of them. and they want to take you away. >> so they take you away right away. >> they took me away right away. there were five cars outside and we headed north from my mother's house. i asked them whether they were going to take me to iraq prison. they said maybe we do maybe we do not. so everything was uncertain from the beginning. but when we headed north i realized that they were going to take me to. >> it is the military prison. it's a place where a lot of torture. there have been western journalists who have died. >> many people. >> under torture. >> many people. >> so you're scared that the point when you realized. >> i was very scared. i mean when i went to the prison and i realized -- i remembered
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all of the interviews i had done in the past with different people who were tortured in prison. you know, i remembered all of those interrogation stories. solitary confinements. everything, yeah i didn't know what to do. >> and when you get there, they still don't charge you? >> in the beginning i was charged with masterminding the western media in iran. that went on for about ten days. after that -- >> in fact, they said, i see in your narl "newsweek" they said they accused you of working for the cia. massoud and "newsweek" as if all intelligent agencies. >> and not only that they mentioned your name as well. they said that your editors fareed sackaria and christopher dickey, they are part of the american intelligence apparatus. and i thought, fareed never told me that. >> i assume no sense of humor about this. you had to be very serious. >> i had to be very, very
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respectful, very differ early and i had to be very serious. >> but you were interrogated for hours and hours and hours. and at some level you had nothing to say because you were just doing your job as a journalist. so what would you say to them. >> i am just saying that i am doing my job. i'm not a spy. my interrogator told me that i was going to be executed every day. i mean every time for about three months he told me that one day, 4:00 in the morning, after the morning prayers you wake up and you see the news in front of you. and i make sure that i -- the person whole kick the chair of your feet and then you'll be hanging and that's end of you. so i was leading with threat of execution for almost three months. >> and why do you think he was doing that? to scare you. >> to pressure me. >> and to force you to say something? >> exactly. he was trying to scare me. and he was trying to tut me under a lot of psychological
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pressure in order for me to submit to what they wanted me to be -- i mean i had physical torture as well. but the psychological torture was much more effective. >> what was the nature of the physical torture? >> kicking, punching, slapping, hitting with the belt. humiliation is the main thing that they do to you in evin prison because they just want to humiliate you so much that you just took me to whatever charges they're throwing at you. what they wanted me to really do was to name different individuals and fabricate facts about them in order to make cases for them you know? and especially there were reformists, there were other journalists. and because they didn't have anything on them, they just wanted me to make up things in order to put them on trial or persecute them. i don't know what. but that was the first thing i told myself that i have not going to do.
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to name any individuals. first of all, i didn't know any secrets of any individuals of importance. and then i thought that if i was going to fabricate the facts about them, i could not live with myself. i mean i'd rather die, you know. >> what was it like to be in solitary confinement? >> it's -- it might be the most difficult part of prison to be in solitary confinement. you know in the koran a la says. to contract their graves. to make their graves smaller. when you're in conitary confinement. the bars, they're becoming smaller and it's faz you are in a grave and you start to hallucinate after a while. >> when you're in prison and you think that you might be getting executed and this guard is constantly, this interrogator's constantly saying that to you,
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what are the thoughts that go through your mind? take us through. it's such a rare experience to be that close to death. what is going on in your head? >> actually, after a few weeks when he threatened me with executions, i thought that you know, so what? i can be executed and that's the end of it. and sometimes i thought you know, it's better than being in solitary confinement for, i don't know how long. because some people they had to spend their -- you know three, four years in solitary confine in the islamic republic. and i contemplated committing suicide twice. i had my glasses. the same glasses in jail. and couple of times i just looked at these glasses and i thought well i can always break the lens and i just can cut my wrist and i was just thinking
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that -- how long is it going to take to bleed to death? how long will it take to bleed to death? and i started to think about it and then i just thought, no, no, i'm not going to do that. why should i do their job for them? if they want to kill me they can do it themselves. i'm not going to be their executioner for myself. and you know i had so much to lose. i have my family of course. i have my wife. i have my child and i have my mother. i have my family. friends. and it's just -- but they're masters of psychological torture. they know exactly what to do. >> so maziar, the last fafz your imprisonment, 20 days before you are released, something begins to change, you said. why do you continuing changed? >> it was mainly because of the international campaign for me. and because of the international pressure. but also because of the internal pressure. as you know most of my
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colleagues, including yourself and many others, they campaigned for me. and i mean it was a nonstop campaigning. i didn't know anything about it. i didn't know anything about it until actually one day in september, my guards, the prison guards were very nice people actually. they were not part of the revolutionary guards. they were very professional. they started to call me mr. hillary clinton. and when i asked them why did you call me hillary clinton? they said because hillary clinton's talked about you last night and they showed it on iranian television. >> which was actually on this program. >> exactly. >> i have ask you a question that's of personal interest in "newsweek" reporter in maziar bahari has been arrested and is now going through what can only be called the kind of the style in the show trial. what is your reaction to that? >> well, i am just appalled at the treatment that mr. bahari and others are receiving. and it is a sign of weakness. it demonstrates i think better than any of us could ever say
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that this iranian leadership is afraid of their own people and afraid of the truth and the facts coming out. >> so at that moment i know that you know there is some sort of campaigning, massive campaigning actually was going on. because otherwise the secretary of state of the united states would not talk about me. so it was maybe the best day in my imprisonment days. >> the one thing i wanted to get to, i forgot. so when you're in the prison, they start asking you about an episode on "the daily show" with john stewart. >> yes. >> talk about that. >> that was really absurd. i was on "the daily show" maybe a week before my arrest. and in that sketch jason jones, the correspondent for the equal daily show" he pretends to be a spy. he pretends to be this redneck american who doesn't know
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anything about the middle east. he has palestinian scarf with sunglasses. and one day my interrogator told me that we have really damning video against you. i was just wondering what it is. they showed me this video. and i was just -- i was going to ask them, what you been smoking? it's unbelievable. and i ask them, i hope you don't believe that he's a real spy. and then they said, we're sure that there's something suspicious about him because why is he pretending to be a spy and why did he choose you to -- beyond his program. >> maziar bahari. a great pleasure to you have back and have me on your show. >> thank you very much. and we'll be back next week with more from maziar bahari. how he got out of prison. what happened he thinks of iran. and the future of the iranian opposition.
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manmolian singh is a fascinating figure in his own right. born in rural poverty who ruled to become finance minister, head of the central bank and now prime minister of his country. he's an unlikely head of a raucous populist democracy. loves to read. by all accounts he and president obama have forged a good personal relationship. but the visit of india's prime minister to washington is about more than personalities. it is the first official state visit of the obama presidency. it should be an occasion to celebrate and solidify the alliance between the world's largest democracy and the world's oldest democracy. but in fact, so far the obama presidency has been marked by a series of small fumbles and miscues in its relations n new delhi. we think a lot about south asia and call it afback. fixated on stabilizing
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afghanistan, washington seems to be relying more and more heavily on pakistan to tackle the taliban problem. in doing so more disturbingly, washington seems to be adopting the world view of the pakistani army, an army that created the taliban and despite $10 billion of aid from the united states, has taken no serious steps to dismantle it. pakistan's long-standing position has been that it has a right to see a pro-pakistani government in afghanistan. the respected expert harrison noted that in an interview him in 1988, pakistan's president demanded "a regime to our liking in kabul." last year a pakistani general told the director of cia "that pakistan had to support the taliban in afghanistan otherwise india will reign and now general stan mcchrystal has echoed the pakistani line by -- "increasing indian influence in
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afghanistan is likely to exacerbate." pakistan and afghanistan here in trouble. but dysfunctional small states don't create opportunities for political stability and world order. a strong relationship with india has that potential. if the obama administration does not build on it, it will have missed a great opportunity. >> mr. prime minister, thank you very much for joining us. >> well, i'm very happy to be here having this interview with you, fareed. >> when you look at afghanistan, do you believe that the american presence there has contributed to stability and is contributing to stabilizing the situation? >> well, all i can say is the rise of taliban in afghanistan created a major problem for the world. and that disappearance of the
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taliban's regime is indeed a blessing for the global society, global problem. >> the problem in afghanistan is largely a problem of disaffected pashtuns that they make up 50% of afghanistan but 100% of the taliban. do you believe that there should be some kind of political outreach to the taliban or to members of the pashtun community who may have allied themselves with the taliban? is there a political deal to be struck there. >> well, i think that president karzai having been re-elected, it is his responsibility and his obligation to harmonize and to bring together all who can contribute to the development in pakistan. and i hope that he will rise to the occasion. >> has he done so, so far? >> well, i think that there have
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been limited efforts before and i sincerely yesterday in his inaugurate address, he appeared to have -- and other deliverance to work with him. so i hope that all elements of -- societies which are opposed to the elements can get together to give a purposeful -- a purposeful government to the people of afghanistan. >> the united states is trying to stabilize the situation in afghanistan. is trying to help president karzai establish a stabile government there. what is pakistan's objective in afghanistan in your view? >> well, i sometimes fear that pakistan's objectives are not necessarily in harbor with the u.s. objectives. pakistan sometimes feels that the americans are westernizers. that they will not have the
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courage to -- that they will walk over here. that afghanistan will become a natural backyard for pakistan to influence its policies and programs. >> so you think they want an afghanistan that is a pakistani people? >> yes, i think that that appears to me. >> is it your sense that the pakistani government and the pakistani army are taking active measures to destroy the afghan taliban as distinct from the pakistani taliban? >> well, who am i to judge? i think what secretary clinton when she was in pakistan recently, i think she did ask i think public ly that -- pardon me. the leaders of the taliban,
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where are they? that cannot be unknown to the people in pakistan. so that is an indication of things that are happening on the ground. >> do you think that the pakistani army will ever take on the afghan taliban? those terrorist elements that attack, not pakistanis, but afghans, indians, perhaps westerners? >> i'm not certain whether the pakistan army will take on those elements. >> who do you think is running pakistan right now? >> well, i think the most important force in pakistan is the army. and there is democracy. we would like democracy to succeed and flourish in pakistan, but we have to recognize that the power
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today -- >> do you feel that you have a partner in pakistan with whom you can negotiate? >> well, i don't know whether we have a partner right now. i think when general musharraf was there, i used to ask him, and he said, well, i am the ardent. i do present the armed force. i do present the people. now i don't know who to deal with. >> when you look at the situation in pakistan, do you worry about the collapse of the state and the nuclear weapons moving into the hands of either some radical element within the army or terrorists? >> well, we worry about all these continuancies but unsure that the americans that they are satisfied that that's not going to happen. >> do you feel that pakistan has done enough to bring to justice and to give you intelligence
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about the terrorists who plan the mumbai attacks? >> no, they have not done enough. they've taken some steps. i have discussed this. he assured us that he will do -- pakistan will do all that is possible to bring to justice. the mumbai massacres. but this feeling that pakistan's not done enough. [ unintelligible ] and other elements. according to pakistan's own admissions, is actively involved in perpetrating this masaker in
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mumbai. they are moving around freely. the conspiracy to place in pakistans. so friendly pakistan, the government in pakistan which would be equally determined to tackle terrorism, would i think to take the case it's to logical conclusions. but that has not happened. >> do you see any prospects for productive negotiations on kashmir with snaun because you were close to some kind of a deal with president musharraf before he had to leave office. >> well, i've publicly stated that there can be no redrawing of borders but countries can work together to ensure that these are borders of peace. that people to people context grow in this manner in which people do not, i think, worry whether they're located on this
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side of the border or that side. if trade is free, trade people to people context and both countries competing with each other to give a life to enable the people on both sides to lead the life of dignity and self-respect. and those are issues which we can discuss. we can reach abreemt. >> and we'll be back with more from the indian prime minister right after this. >> the united states, it has shown remarkable capacity to bounce back. the unperennial spirit which is a hall mark of the american enterprise system.
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let me ask you about the trip you're about to embark on. you have famously had a very good relationship with president george w. bush. do you have any apprehension that the obama administration will not be as favorably disposed towards india as the bush administration was? >> i have no apprehension that
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our relations with the united states would in any way suffer because of the change of the administration. >> when one travels around india these days and reads the newspapers, talks to people, you get a great deal of connection and interaction with the united states at every level, at the level of business, at the level of universities. is the relationship between indian society and american society actually now stronger than that between the indian government and the american government. >> well, our relations are at the people-to-people level are great significance. the fact that there's a large community in the united states. people of indian origin. the way that they flourish. the way that they're rooted. to the growth of the economy. i think it has changed. and i often say to our guests
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abroad that these days are there hardly middle-class family in india who doesn't have a son, a son-in-law, a brother or a sister or a sister-in-law in the united states. i think that's the great incenti incentive. >> you are going to go to washington is some specific objectives. one would be to get the united states to ease up on some of the restrictions in terms of transferring nuclear technology to india. that is in a sense the operationalization of the nuclear deal that you signed with president bush. do you worry that there might be undo restrictions placed on these transfers and that the obama administration may be too concerned about issues of nuclear proliferation and will not transfer technology to you? >> we are in nuclear weapons
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state but we're a responsible nuclear power. not have contributed to unauthorized proliferation of these weapons of mass destruction. i think it does require greater concentration of the global community. india needs to industrialized. india needs to operate on the frontiers of modern science and technology and therefore, restrictions on these technologies affect growth. we need a growth rate of 8% to 9% to get rid of chronic disease. we still inflict millions and millions of people in our count country. and that can affect industrialization and transfer of technologies it can play a very important role. >> let me ask you to put on your hat as an economist. you're a very distinguished economist. what is your reaction to this extraordinary global financial crisis that seem to come out of
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the blue, seem to have a much greater impact than anyone was able to foresee initially. what made the system melt down one year ago? >> well r, lax globalization. modern policies which are far too liberals. they should have been tight end much earlier but they were not tighten and therefore this laxity contributed to this -- [ unintelligible ] >> isn't it ironic that india and china and a couple of other emerging market countries during the boom were actually much more vigilant regard to their monetary policy, raising interest rates, restricting credit. whereas in the west, there was somewhat lax attitude, as you
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say. so one usually thinks of the advanced industrial world as having better economic policy than emerging markets or third world countries but it seems as though the roles have reversed. >> well, i don't want to wish to comment on individual countries, policies. but certainly we are more prudent. even have shown that this prudent has paid us. our banking system has not been exposed to the -- the banking system and other countries have been disposed. and therefore, our natural prudence and plus i think go good -- have contributed to this favorable outcome. >> do you think that this crisis casts a doubt or casts a poor light on the american model? and does this in some way affect
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america's power, its soft power, if you will. american was seen as the leading example of capitalism around the world. the advance model and does that now cast some doubt. >> there is temporary -- a temporary questioning about the intelligence of the american model. but i have seen these things much better. i think way back in the late '60s. economies at yale professor robert griffin wrote that very famous book "gold in the dollar crisis." the currency of the world. that the united states should take a lead to -- [ iunintelligible ] the united states from difficult situation. it has shown remarkable capacity
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to bounce back the unperennial spirit which is a hallmark of the enterprise system. i have no doubt that these things are not -- any shifts but that the american economy has the capacity to bounce back to its normal growth. >> so the russian government and the chinese government in various ways have been suggesting or hinting that they might prefer a world without the dollar as a reserve currency. you do not share that view? >> no, no. the power to create money is an index of power of nations. and as far as i can see right now there is no substitute for the dollar. i think even the chinese are hesitant of the fact that their whole $2.5 trillion of reserves.
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they've not tried to dispose of. that the world has ended up in the dollars. there is the confidence problem which can be very destabilizing but my own feeling is that we have not entered any shifts in economic strength of the united states. >> what do you think about the prospect of the rise of china within asia? this is an economy already three times the size of india's economy and is still growing faster than india's economy. >> well, i think the rise of china has contributed handsomely to sustaining the growth momentum in the world economy. and as far as india is concerned i've said it many time that
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india and china are not in competition. we believe that there is enough economic space for both countries to realize the growth of regions of respective countries and that's the attitude which guides us in dealing with china. >> but you know many outside visitors go to china and they go to india and they are struck by the energy with which the chinese are both building infrastructure, the ease with which you can set up businesses, and they wish that they could see a similar -- a similar process in india. >> well, i have no hesitation in saying that i think development in india can be be a carbon copy what happens in china. the chinese system is very different. we're a functioning democracy. here even if you want to acquire land i think you will run into serious problems. that's a part of operating a democracy. and democracy is slow-moving.
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i have always believed that we'll be slow-moving in the short term, but in the long term, an arrangement which has the backing of the people at large who prove to be more doable. >> and we'll be back with more from the indian prime minister right after this. >> thank you rkyou, m.i.t. and outstanding m.i.t. professors. gy has a healing touch. there's a factory giving old industries new life. and there's a train that got a whole city moving again. somewhere in america, the toughest questions are answered every day. because somewhere in america, 69,000 people spend every day answering them. siemens. answers.
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' we'll be to our interview with president sning a moment. what got my attention was sixth sense. no it's not esp and nor is it the m. knight shamaylan movie. this is a high-tech device. maybe the highest tech device ever that let's you go samelessly between the digital world and the physical world. for example making a framing sign with your fingers and the computer takes a picture.
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take a look at the weather forecast printed hours ago on the back of a newspaper and notice you have the up-to-date weather forecast superimposed on it. take out a piece of paper and play a video game on it and dial your cell phone on your hand. these are the ideas of this man. one of the stars of the recent ted india. who is ted, you ask? ted is an extremely influential set of conferences held every year in the u.s. and the uk to talk about the future of creativity, high-technology and about innovation. it's very cutting edge. and for the first time in the organization's 25-year history it has just held a major conference in india. it's a sign that india's becoming one of the great innovation capital was the world with ideas moving samelessly from west to east. is doing his work at m.i.t. a report out this week says india has more students in the u.s. than any other nation. more than 100,000 went this year
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alone. the vast majority of them will go back and ino straight india and you're also seeing the rise of home-grown innovation in india. much of it targeted towards the poor. you may think that's a bad business model. why innovate for people who cannot pay for it but when there are hundreds and millions of people it starts to make great sense. the world's poorer will set at the ted conference are worth up to $13 trillion a year in revenue. one concerned on trying to capitalize on that. honeybee network which supports literal grassroots invation by india's farmers and other rural citizens. was another featured of the speakers of the ted conference and his organization has helped to bring to market a refrigerator made of clay which uses no electricity but keeps things cool and fresh for days. and there's another interesting appliance. this one invented by a 14-year-old girl whose chores were taking away from herred studies. she invented a pedal-powered
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washing machine. the 21st century will belong to those who can command the idea. highlighted india's richness in that currency. the nation's teeming masses of human capital. its ease in the english language. it's existing connections into the global economy. all of these things make it well placed despite its third world status to be a true leader in innovation in this century and we'll be right back. i was actuay having a heart attack. i remember being at the hospital, thinking about my wife. i should have done more to take care of myself. now i'm exercising, watching my diet, and i trust my heart to lipitor. (announcer) unlike some other cholesterol lowering medications, lipitor is fda approved to reduce the risk of heart attack, stroke and certain kinds of heart surgeries in patients with several common risk factors or heart disease. lipitor is backed by over 17 years of research. lipitor is not for everyone, including people with liver problems
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hello i'm fredricka whitfield. u.s. senate gop leader mitch mcconsell blasting what he calls the democrats' arrogant approach to health care reform. the senate passed a procedural measure to proceed with debate just last night appearing on cnn's "state of the union" today, mcconnell said the democrats proposed health care overall is not what the american people want. >> well, we don't often ignore the wishes of the american people. they are literally screaming, many of them, telling us, please don't pass this. don't pass this bill. if the majority is hellbent on
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ignoring the wishes of the american people they had 60 votes in the senate. you would think that they might be able do this but i believe a number of democratic senators who do care what the american people think and are not interested in this sort of arrogant approach that everybody is sort of shut up and sit down, get out of the way. we know what's best for you. we're hearing from the american people. they don't want us to pass this. students at the university of california santa cruz have ended their three-day occupation of an administration building. they lot of their own after campus police warned them if they didn't they'd be arrested. the students were protesting a 32% tuition hike. demonstrations were also held at other uc campuses throughout the past week. and people in northwest england are cleaning up after a massive flooding. government forecasters say more than a foot of rain fell in a 24-hour period in some areas. more than 1,000 homes were actually flooded. and hundreds of people were actually rescued.
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stormy weather is forecast for parts of the u.s. as well. right when millions of people are traveling for the thanksgiving holiday. here's cnn meteorologist bonnie schneider. >> thanks, fred. for those of you that'll be travel for today, we do have some trouble sfots tell you about. and basically, they're in two corners of the country. the northwest and the southeast. in the northwest we'll be watching for snowy conditions up into the cascades. wet and windy weather as well affecting cities like seattle and portland. and then down in the southeast, watch out for rain along the gulf coast. specifically into louisiana. parts of georgia, florida, all looking at wet and windy conditions for those of you who are hitting the roads earlier. wednesday the busiest travel david year, everything changes. we start to talk about cold weather. and even the threat for snow. that's right. wind and snow for the great lakes possibly on wednesday. a wintry mix. and that will definitely affect travel conditions for cities like minneapolis, chicago and detroit and cleveland. elsewhere across the country on wednesday, we'll be looking at
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i love eggland's best... because of all the great nutrition. that's why they're the only eggs... i make for my son. the chef. eggland's best. the better egg. we're back with the prime minister of india. you grew up a poor boy on a farm. you wrr a scholarship student, went to cambridge. here you are, prime minister of the largest democracy in the world. did you ever think growing up as a child you would end up in this position? >> i'm so sorry anever thought i would reach that far. i am what i am because of the education that i received, but it's that bu that democracy that a person with such background as mine can i think become the prime minister of this great
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land. >> do you think india's rise in that sense has a lesson to teach the world? >> i think india, if it succeeds, in reremaining a functioning democracy and simultaneously attacking problems of poverty, disease, illiteracy, that if we do succeed, i think that is going to be an international public good. it would have lessons far the evolution of the country's, of the third world in the 21st century. so the fact that the very full countries of india's size which have remained functioning democracy throughout the 60 years of our independence, i think the world has to recognize that if we do succeed, it would have some bearing on the
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evolution of the continuation of the third world in the 21st century. >> mr. prime minister, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you very much, regard heed. it has been a great pleasure talking to you.
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now for our question of the week. last week president obama was just arriving in china to meet with its leaders. so i asked you, do you think china has the upper hand in the u.s.-china relationship? is china now the world's great super power? the vast majority of you said no, pointing to what you see as china's weaknesses, internal repression, its foiled human rights record. larry jennings of nord city said
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you cannot call a nation a super power when it has such little concern for its own people. i talked a few minutes ago about indian innovation and the evidence that american innovation may be waning. do you think the u.s. is still the world's most innovative country? let me know what you think and wide. as always i'd like to recommend a book. this one is called "too big to fail" by andrew russ sorkin, a financial reporter for the new york 250i78s. it's a real page turner, the global financial meltdown told as a detective story. the same bankers and government officials you say testifying in dry hearings on capitol hill are in this larger than life characters living withdraw ma with the highest stakes. in fact, that's what it was for these people. they were desperately trying to prevent the collapse of the world financial system. "too big to fail" is quite comprehensible, clearing explaining much of what brought us here. very good reading. please remember to check out our

Fareed Zakaria GPS
CNN November 22, 2009 1:00pm-2:00pm EST

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